R. BENYAMIN CIRLIN, CSW: Not only are they not helpful, they're destructive. I believe in what I teach people I work with. I call it "griever's assertiveness." You need to prepare the kid and you need to teach him that someone's going to come along and say that, and you need to work with that child to say, "You know what, I'm not the man of the family. I'm still a child." It's really about defending themselves against those kind of comments.
LISA CLARK: And giving themselves permission to feel what they're feeling and to express what they're feeling.
R. BENYAMIN CIRLIN, CSW: Absolutely.
PATTY DONOVAN-DUFF, RN: It's a wonder. I think we have so many teachable moments with children, to be able to teach them about loss of all kinds, and I think we really have to take advantage of those times with our kids to say to them even that sometimes adults don't know what to say. We're not good at this either. They know, and they'll tell.
LISA CLARK: Kids like hearing that or having you validate their strong suspicions. Well, I'd like to thank both of you, Benyamin and Patty, for being with us and for your insight into helping children grieve. It's a very important process for all of us, but especially, I think, for children, because they have to deal with this for their entire emotional lives. Thank you again. Thank all of you for joining us. I'm Lisa Clark.